Comments on: How to Solve PA’s $3.2B Budget Deficit – with Wine http://www.1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/ A Serious Wine Blog For the Not-So-Serious Drinker Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:01:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jack Hu Aholes http://www.1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-12193 Jack Hu Aholes Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:39:43 +0000 http://1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-12193 Wow...That took so much effort on your part to be witty...So Glad you and your followers on this blog think so little of the workers in the stores. You should deal with the shopping public that thinks all wine should taste like grape soda. Personally, I can't wait until HB 2125 goes thru and wine can be sold by the private sector. Since the state can't please the wine snobs, let's see how Walmart does for ya... Wow…That took so much effort on your part to be witty…So Glad you and your followers on this blog think so little of the workers in the stores. You should deal with the shopping public that thinks all wine should taste like grape soda. Personally, I can't wait until HB 2125 goes thru and wine can be sold by the private sector. Since the state can't please the wine snobs, let's see how Walmart does for ya…

]]> By: 1WineDude http://www.1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-12198 1WineDude Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:11:10 +0000 http://1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-12198 Now that I understand and I think you bring up a GREAT point - if the system is changed but the underlying issue of alcohol sale / distro. benefiting only the State and not consumers is addressed, then privatization won't reap all of the potential benefits for both the consumers AND the State government. I think it's a step in the right direction, though... Now that I understand and I think you bring up a GREAT point – if the system is changed but the underlying issue of alcohol sale / distro. benefiting only the State and not consumers is addressed, then privatization won't reap all of the potential benefits for both the consumers AND the State government.

I think it's a step in the right direction, though…

]]> By: Jack Hu Aholes http://www.1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-12197 Jack Hu Aholes Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:57:45 +0000 http://1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-12197 No it's not the issue..it was the comment you made about "I mean, one that serves consumers?" Do I or anyone who works in the stores criticize other peoples jobs or how much they are paid?NO ! People who work in the stores do more than "ring a cash register". It's this perception that is made by politicians and the news media that are only self serving that is the problem. The PLCB is the most poorly run entity on the planet and believe me, it only getting worse. Went they privatize and believe me is coming, the sad part is those running the current PLCB are still going to be controlling what is sold in Pa. Harrisburg and the idiots they hire from the private sector who are running the system are the problem and I'm afraid that will never change, Privatization or not. No it's not the issue..it was the comment you made about "I mean, one that serves consumers?"
Do I or anyone who works in the stores criticize other peoples jobs or how much they are paid?NO ! People who work in the stores do more than "ring a cash register". It's this perception that is made by politicians and the news media that are only self serving that is the problem. The PLCB is the most poorly run entity on the planet and believe me, it only getting worse. Went they privatize and believe me is coming, the sad part is those running the current PLCB are still going to be controlling what is sold in Pa. Harrisburg and the idiots they hire from the private sector who are running the system are the problem and I'm afraid that will never change, Privatization or not.

]]> By: 1WineDude http://www.1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-12195 1WineDude Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:04:51 +0000 http://1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-12195 I don't really understand why you're drawing that conclusion. The employees in the PA state stores are not the issue for me - it's the lack of incentive for the stores and PLCB to provide top service to customers because of their monopoly position. If the state system is really awesome then what would it have to fear from competition? - which I think is the point you're making, right? But the PLCB has blocked this competition in every conceivable way, using baseless claims as its justification (e.g., minors would have easier access to alcohol, etc.), even when science and statistics actually prove those claims to be false. I don't really understand why you're drawing that conclusion.

The employees in the PA state stores are not the issue for me – it's the lack of incentive for the stores and PLCB to provide top service to customers because of their monopoly position.

If the state system is really awesome then what would it have to fear from competition? – which I think is the point you're making, right?

But the PLCB has blocked this competition in every conceivable way, using baseless claims as its justification (e.g., minors would have easier access to alcohol, etc.), even when science and statistics actually prove those claims to be false.

]]> By: 1WineDude http://www.1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-12110 1WineDude Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:25:11 +0000 http://1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-12110 Let me get this straight... *You've* worked in a state store for almost 30 years - I mean, one that serves consumers? Only in PA... Let me get this straight… *You've* worked in a state store for almost 30 years – I mean, one that serves consumers?

Only in PA…

]]> By: Jack Hu Aholes http://www.1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-12109 Jack Hu Aholes Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:38:33 +0000 http://1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-12109 If you think that pay is too high to put up with drunk "a-holes" like yourself enjoy this little fact: I've worked in a state store for 27 years putting up with you little pissy cry babies. Most of you get your wine education from watching Movies and TV....Translation..you don't know crap about wine but you think you do. One last thing...I make $18.32 an hour so SUCK ON THAT BITCHES !!!!! If you think that pay is too high to put up with drunk "a-holes" like yourself enjoy this little fact:
I've worked in a state store for 27 years putting up with you little pissy cry babies. Most of you get your
wine education from watching Movies and TV….Translation..you don't know crap about wine but you think you do.
One last thing…I make $18.32 an hour so SUCK ON THAT BITCHES !!!!!

]]> By: PA Budget and the PLCB | The Philly Wine Website http://www.1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-6665 PA Budget and the PLCB | The Philly Wine Website Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:26:41 +0000 http://1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-6665 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: Chris PA http://www.1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-6539 Chris PA Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:49:32 +0000 http://1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-6539 Their actual staffing is lower than 227, as a start... but in general you can assume approximately one employee equals $700K in sales. This number can be higher per employee in a chain market where you are calling on a lot of corporate offices, but it's a good ballpark. If they did 300 - 400 million in the state after privatization, that's 400 to 500 employees. (or more) Their actual staffing is lower than 227, as a start… but in general you can assume approximately one employee equals $700K in sales. This number can be higher per employee in a chain market where you are calling on a lot of corporate offices, but it's a good ballpark. If they did 300 – 400 million in the state after privatization, that's 400 to 500 employees. (or more)

]]> By: 1WineDude http://www.1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-6528 1WineDude Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:23:07 +0000 http://1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-6528 Now you're convincing me. How did you arrive at the $150M figure (just curious). Cheers. Now you're convincing me. How did you arrive at the $150M figure (just curious). Cheers.

]]> By: Chris PA http://www.1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-6526 Chris PA Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:01:25 +0000 http://1winedude.com/index.php/2009/07/06/how-to-solve-pas-3-2b-budget-deficit-with-wine/#comment-6526 That's enough staffing for approx. $150 mm in business. If the system is private, their operations would at least double. They are small for the size of the state. That's enough staffing for approx. $150 mm in business. If the system is private, their operations would at least double. They are small for the size of the state.

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