44031 Responseshttp://www.1winedude.com/index.php/2009/03/12/i-hate-the-pennsylvania-liquor-control-board/I+Hate+The+Pennsylvania+Liquor+Control+Board2009-03-12+11%3A00%3A001WineDude to “I Hate The Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board”

1. John Says:
   March 12th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

   So what you're saying is that you love the PLCB, right? ;)

2. 1WineDude Says:
   March 12th, 2009 at 3:15 pm

   Yeah, I get your point… perhaps I delivered the message with a bit too much subtlety… ;-)

3. RobBralow Says:
   March 12th, 2009 at 3:40 pm

   why don't you tell us how you REALLY feel…

4. 1winedude5036 Says:
   March 12th, 2009 at 11:02 am

   Thanks – I thought you'd never ask!

   It gets *worse*, believe it or not. Check out http://noplcb.blogspot.com/2009/03/phillymag-has-... . Put simply, the PA State and Federal Constitutions mean **nothing** to the people running PLCB. Because they make billions of dollars for the Commonwealth, they are executing liberty without any thought to the consequences on the liberties of their citizens and the businesses of those citizens – which are the very things for which the Commonwealth's elected officials have been charged to protect.

   In the case of the linked article above, the PLCB have moved from Communism to the kind of Capitalist Totalitarianism that is currently being practiced in China.

5. ryan Says:
   March 12th, 2009 at 4:46 pm

   But Control Board has such a pleasant ring to it! :)

6. Lew Bryson Says:
   March 12th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

   But… but… the Liquor Control Board is here "for the protection of the public welfare, health, peace and morals of the people of the Commonwealth and to prohibit forever the open saloon, and all of the provisions of this act shall be liberally construed for the accomplishment of this purpose." Doesn't that make all the stupid, thoughtless, arrogant, corrupt stuff they do worthwhile?

7. 1WineDude Says:
   March 12th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

   Yes – We must PROTECT OUR CHILDREN!!!! :-P

8. 1WineDude Says:
   March 12th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

   It is the ring of their cash registers, my friend! :)

9. Beth P Says:
   March 12th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

   I am in total agreement! I have lived in PA for 12 years and being in the restaurant business and now specifically wine, it is so challenging and frustrating. I don't know if it will ever change. We hope to market Biodynamic wines – http://www.biodynamicwines.net – but to grow the business how we envision, we will need to move because of the restrictions. It's disheartening…

10. 1WineDude Says:
    March 12th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    OMG! Are you serious? So you need to relocate the business because of the state's archaic distribution laws… How is this good for the consumer??? Did I mention that I hate the PLCB?

11. WineDiverGirl Says:
    March 12th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    Dude…Napa is ready and waiting for you and your lovely family…and your wine love, and your wine dollars…better access, no snow, ahhh…let me count the ways :) California or Bust Dude!

12. 1WineDude Says:
    March 12th, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    Shhhh!!!! Mrs. Dudette will want to move in, like, a heartbeat… and Dude here does not have the coin to roll that relocation at the moment :-P

13. kevin keith Says:
    March 13th, 2009 at 1:52 am

    Dude, I feel your pain, though in a different way. Thanks to our beautiful legislators here in KY, the wet counties in the Northern part of the state get to take it sideways so to bankroll those dry, bootlegging counties down south. But I know too many folks on the supply side who just hate dealing with PA. I'm with WIneDiverGirl – let's all begin the great big drunken wagon train out to the coast. Better weather, nicer people, cleaner air, closer to the grapes, great restaurants, great music scenes (SF and SD at least) – is it moving ya, cos it's got me thinkin.

14. pleia2 (pleia2) Says:
    March 13th, 2009 at 3:45 am

    I Hate The Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board http://tinyurl.com/aovu7c

15. Ron McFarland Says:
    March 13th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    Have you ever talked to any of the staff members?

16. RobBralow Says:
    March 13th, 2009 at 10:40 am

    The whole fact that the PLCB exists is enough of an indicator that they do not respect the liberties of the citizens. Why control the market, except to make a profit at the people's expense?

17. 1WineDude Says:
    March 13th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    I have – if you mean staff in the stores. Many of them don't know anything about wine, however I don't hold it against them (despite the poor shopping experience that results from that), because they've no incentive from the PLCB HQ to increase their wine knowledge.

18. 1WineDude Says:
    March 13th, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Gotta admit, I'd be lying if I said that I hadn't thought about migrating West… twice an hour… ;-)

19. 1WineDude Says:
    March 13th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    C'mon…. they also exist to ensure that the citizens are protected from themselves in terms of alcohol abuse by minors, which is reflected in the stats that clearly show that PA's numbers surrounding those abuses are almost exactly the same as those for states that do NOT regulate the direct distribution of alcohol…

20. Ron McFarland Says:
    March 13th, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    I should disclose that PLCB has been a customer of ours and sold some of our wine – on the business side they very good.

    Maybe this is one of those situtations where lemons can be turned into lemonade. Perhaps, a 1Wine Dude selection or 1 Wine Dude wine club might be fun for the residents of PA?

21. 1WineDude Says:
    March 13th, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Wow. Gotta admit, I'd never thought of that. Tell you what – if they let me buy wine from anywhere that I want and have it shipped to my door without having to go through them, then I'll work with the PLCB! ;-)

22. Lew Bryson Says:
    March 14th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    I wondered about this. If some guys showed up on my doorstep, said, "Lew, we're with the PLCB, and you're right. We'd like to work WITH you, though, to fix everything that's wrong with the PLCB: the bourbon selection, the number of stores, the wine storage, the staff training…everything. In fact, the Governor has decided that you should be the next member of the Board, with a fat juicy consulting contract, too. How about it?"

    Okay, crazy, but what if they DID contact me and asked me to help…for a consulting payment? I don't make enough money as a freelancer that I could totally ignore such an offer. I would turn them down, though. It's still wrong for a state agency to have monopoly on off-premise booze sales. Period. No way I'll help them. Screw 'em.

23. 1WineDude Says:
    March 14th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    I'm with ya – the only way to fix it, IMHO, is to let it compete fairly in the free market system.

24. elvindeath Says:
    March 16th, 2009 at 12:22 am

    Just be happy you don't live in Michigan. Our system is even more ridiculous. There's something wrong when the Beer & Wine Wholesalers Association are the biggest campaign contributors to every single officeholder in the state. Weird how the minute the court struck down our restrictive law and allowed outstate retailers to ship to Michigan, the legislature held and emergency session to pass a new, even more restrictive bill, authored by the wholesalers.

    I hate government. Ron Paul in 2012.

25. 1WineDude Says:
    March 16th, 2009 at 12:38 am

    That's pretty bad. Nice to know your tax dollars are at work… stuffing the coffers of the elected officials, that is…

26. Francisco Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    I thought I had seen an article in the last couple of years, in which they exposed one of the former heads of that Board (who decided which wines to allow into the Soviet Republic of Penn's official stores.) as essentially knowing more about chocolate milk than about wine.

27. 1WineDude Says:
    March 20th, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    Sounds reasonable – why should you have to know anything about wine to run one of the largest purchasers of wine in the U.S., right? Er…. wiat a sec…

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